There shouldn’t be a state security minister at all, says Mo Shaik

In an interview on eNCA ahead of his testimony, Shaik said that the inspector-general of intelligence who recommended that Pravin Gordhan and the others involved in the so-called rogue unit should be criminally charged had no jurisdiction to investigate the unit.

He alleged that some political interference may have taken place and laid the blame at Cwele’s feet.

At the commission on Monday, Shaik explained that, in his view, a minister of intelligence was unnecessary, and intelligence should report directly to the president.

“When you appoint a minister in intelligence you are automatically making him ‘first among peers’. That minister is bound to know things about other ministers,” he said.

He said he never believed in the role, as he knew it would create conflict.

Shaik detailed his background and journey towards becoming involved with national intelligence through underground training during apartheid.

He said he “grew close” to Zuma and became his supporter at this time, as Zuma was the ANC’s intelligence head.

“I reported to Jacob Zuma, in his capacity as the ANC’s head of intelligence, and became close to him as a result. I remained a firm supporter of his for many years” he said.

Shaik’s testimony continues.

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